Smart Conversations by CN&CO is inspired by the Carpool Karaoke series. Our Carel Nolte  loved the concept and decided we needed our own version. Driving around in Carel’s Smart car, we interview awesome people, listen to lekker music and obviously break no traffic rules…

In this episode of Smart Conversations, Carel chats to Magcino Gule from Old Mutual Insure’s Travelsure. She’s smart, an insurance leader of note, winner of bride of the year, loves Miami by Will Smith and chats to Carel about RMB Starlight Classics, training for the Soweto Marathon, the Ndlovu Choir and of course the excellent Travelsure product available direct or via brokers. All while holding on, tightly, as the Smart takes on the humps of Hyde Park.